Let it be clear to all those who comment a lot of non sense on this website that caste and gotras have no meaning.No one is related to any one after 6/7 generations.So fools are the people who feel proud of their gotras and castes.Sikh Gurus preached abolition of castes and condemned in strongest terms.Non of the Gurus ever made any mention of his caste or gotra. The purpose of books such as Manusmriti, Mahabharta and Ramayan was to keep the low castes oppresses in perpetuity and so that they would never rise again to challenge the Brahmins and the Brahminical system. it is only community which rise fastly and proved they are no less than others. Hell Mr Rajan.i think aap 1 educated person,aap aese,kaise bol skte h.unblvable, I think you are mentally why shouldnt you talk to a psychetrists their u will be ok in some years after treatment or rahi baat asudh ki to mujhe lagta h ye sirf jealousy h becoz just u type of people dont want that other caste peoples go upward or jinki soch aisi hoti h WO hi khud nich hote h, I think you are mentally ill why shouldnt you talk to a psychetrists their u will be ok in some years after treatment or rahi baat asudh ki to mujhe lagta h ye sirf jealousy h becoz just u type of people dont want that other caste peoples go upward or jinki soch aisi hoti h WO hi khud nich hote h. Chamars also have surnames like Singla, Singhal. Geeta rani vill A reputation: has a bad name About 15% of the Chamar were found in Mirpur, where they suffered heavily in 1947 at the start of the Kashmir . PDF Castes and Subcastes List in Bihar - Matchfinder Ahirwar, Mandrah, Waxer, Minote, Pahade, Baghel, Choukhe, Piple, Chouria. Saalo chamaro kahin ja ke marr jaoSaare jaato ko apni list me shamil kar liya ..Agar jaat banne ka itna hi shonk hai ,,,to apni ma ko bolo kisi jaat ke paas jaya kare,,,,,,,,,,. Guru Nanak and his successors mission is dying because Sikhism is in the hands of castes that are not interested in his mission but have turned it into politics and business for jatts benefit. Why you blaming only Brahmins..? So when people have same surnames, that means they are related by blood (DNA). List of Schedule Caste - cgtrti.gov.in You will find among us Sharmas, Banerjees, Singhs . Abhi to napi hai muthi bhar jameen hamne, sidhu gill virk are not sc and also jatt? Vairy ni puttha tangiye. Jai Rajputana, Tamorya.nigam.kardam.nimoi.raj.chand.parkash.gautam.badbujar.sagar.sidharth.mehra.verma.jatav.bharti.haldeva.dass.parmar.katarya.khalshaniya . Jai Guru Dev, Dhan Guru Dev Ravidass says achuut raj vicharat dukh payao, yeh gath payee humarree quote from Sikh holy book the Guru Granth Sahib. Wisdom of Vedas and Up nishadas have been derived from original thoughts of Adi Dharam. They have no history to be proud of. SOMEONE OUGHT TO TEACH YOU ALL BIRTH CONTROL AND THEN ONLY YOUR CASTE WILL BECOME LITERATE AND KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG. Its not like Jatts are stopping other castes from being proud of what they are. (LogOut/ Please reply l want jathere 1.Sahai, 2.walia in punjab. Last months analysis of top 100 talented persons in the world: Cambridge University London displayed the list. It was only in the year 1931 that Britisher Govt of india acceded to their request to exclude them from Sudra Varna. 3.Chahal He gave his teaching to the gurus. When Guru Nanak, after discovering the truth, told the Indian people that Brahminism is a lie and spent all his life speaking against the caste system until eventually the baton was passed to Guru Govind Singh to destroy Brahminism and its evil caste system once and for all by creating the khalsa, ie a casteless society. 2023 Central: Uttar Pradesh Caste List OBC SC ST PDF List Another point I notice here is that instead of working for integration of castes this site is just further promoting and firming up casteism . It seems to you are the dumb ass and dont know anything or have not learnt anything except live in total ignorance. : thankyou, lage rao cak de chamar bai bai de maddat karo, Chamar gandi ur asudh caste hai ur vo suchta se nahi rehti hai, Apni suddhta praman hai apke pas, per is traha ki neech hakat karke neechta ke praman diya hai apne. Plenty of Farmland owned in Nakodar region of Punjab. Thanks jai guru ravidass ji maharaj, rall,jhamat,jakhu,ladhar and chawla,loi,kalsi also in chamar community, i believe no one beats jats and they r the best, lol Padmane. Daily you and all other brahmins are getting poluted since you and your fellow brahmins love wearing your Bata shoes and nikes, your leather belts, your finest leather cases. This is the basics you should know and understand. If Sh. Dalits are not here to make you feel comfortable. Jai guru dev dhan guru dev ji. Sharma is a brahmin subcaste often used by brahmins as surname. 90% OF WORK TO UPLIFT COUNTRY IS DONE BY US WITHOUT DOING ANY WRONG,HARM TO OUR CONTRY. HALF THOSE LAST NAMES WIL ALWAYS BE JATT LAST NAMES AND YOU GUYS ARE NOT JATT. You guys arent related to us and dont give me some bullshit you are. Yes your right I know jatt from other religions but your ego needs to chill, your still classed as a shudra if you believe in caste lol. Lode iss me to sab gulut likhi hai Soni, dhaiya , chawwla yay chamar kab t ho gay, Abe chamar khatri surname kyu dal rha is list mein. sita shunted out of house by raja ramchander , was given shelter by dalit maharishi vamiki who earliar was hunter. The root cause of all this was the system called brahminism (caste system created by the Brahmins). Ghande toh inshan k avgun hote hai. nice to see this awesome website of our community. ||1|| (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Page 349), In the world hereafter, social status and power mean nothing; hereafter, the soul is new. Account No. Thanks brother. Lath Gad Diya Chahal Bhai. . Oh Brahmin if you are born of Brahma, ie God, then why were you not born differently (from us). And break the chain of sub caste and lets start roti and beti vyavhar among rohidas caste/ samaj only. In Old Era & Modern Era Period in Punjab Sikh Kumhar Professions were Ceramics Workers, Glass Product Workers, Water Supply Workers. dhillon, gill, padda, and randhawa are all jatt. These names have been added. also y is it that ur entire family gets a reservation. sikhism was found without caste discrimination .the why u people are crying we are chamar chamar? In India everyone is now treated more or less equally and the caste system is not as dominant as it used to be. but here we cannot hide bravery of mazabi sikhs and some others. Its homes or broken homes they were born into, Sad but true. Lakin ye log samjhane ko tayer nahi hein.me bhi chamar caste se belong karti hu and I am proud that I am a chamar because hamere guru saint siromani ravidas ji hein.pata nahi ye log kab sudhrege, Thpd m gadjaga bhut bol lia chup hoja ib jhukna pdega bhla tu h anpad gwar t teri soch ni 1970 ki. All these power structures they RESERVED for themselves. Bhisi 3.. Shalhru. He was twelfth guru in the Namdhari Sikh lineage and first one to start non coorpration and boycott of British goods and services as a political tool. Waghmare. ja gurudev, U can add Phoondpal also. The label race was given by the British because of their martial fighting spirit in the British Indian Army. So we need a blanket ban on the use of surname. what happened to mike gallagher? In her defense you write that she must have experienced hardship at the hands of her jatt family, when in her comment above she clearly states that her jatt family never mention caste, so it must have been a non issue at the time of her marriage. The Scheduled Caste (SC) is an officially designated group of people in India. Please spread this message to as many as you can. You abviously dont know sikh history. so respect all castes , communities in the world. The Zamindari abolition and Communist upsurge in Bihar gave rise to a tug of war between upper and the lower caste. It is the great great grand father of Indian religions. Im niether Jatt or Chamar but this is sadhopefully one day the Human Race will evolve from such backward thinking. The rule of law has never applied to our caste and we have subjected to the whim of the higher castes, our women were raped and children abused at the will those above us. Also for the morons that are going to say my friend/relative who is a chamar is *insert jatt last name. What has happened in the past or what is still happening is due to ignorance and lack of humanity and a failure of succesive Indian governments lacking the political will to eradicate caste . We should all stand-up to oppression. charansing argued that beva mataka cant be reused as waterpot n became pm not to face parliament even for a day . I do not think you read the comment by the illuminated properly. Lets respect and flow our Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. . its like forcibly pushing sandhu to general category and all other enjoying sc status. I readily accept that my ancestors were poor and vulnerable and i take no shame in it, i am extremely proud and thankful for where they have delivered my family today. i want to know onething from you that is divya bharti (late bollywood actress ) & sonu nigam ( singer ) also belong to chamar caste ? The 1901 census noted that people using the Shoorsaini name were by then found only in Punjab, Haryana, Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh and Delhi. Sandhu yar agree with u, yar apa sikh han and koi chammar ni te koi jatt ni we are only sikh. Our Sikh Gurus also went against Hinduism and preached the same message as Bhagat Ravidas Ji unity, casteless society, righteousness, rejection of Hindu religion, politics and rituals. You should tell your caste boldly and unapologetically. aj peli wari nam sunya a. Chamar hahahah chamcharek? India government say everyone is Hindu regardless if your a Sikh, Buddhist or Jainism. I am in trouble as I do not beileve in caste system and expressed my views at work. Maurya to expand its base. SC are not Ati Shudra.. there is no such caste in India. teri ma ki sale teri kya bahan ko talak dediya ? Jatav Veer Mahasabha, an association of Jatav men founded in 1917, published multiple pamphlets making such claims in the first half of the 20th century. YES CHURAS AND CHAMARS ARE MOVING UP IN THE WORLD TOO.HOOORAY FOR YOU GUYS:), yo im a sahota 2 *snap* nd plus sahota, sandhu are JATT so u fukin get ur facts right, Bhatoa (Bhatia), Bishanpal, Maan, Guru, Mitterpal, Gill, Badhan, Ghera, Thanda, Bhauria, par parah mereya . This comment is illegal to post. Baba from your Dera Ballan followed and respected the GGSJ, regardless of what has happened, it was a low act to break away, wasnt the fault of GGSJ. Their gotras have nothing to do with their religion or Muslim castes while genetically they are related to their dub sub caste groups. Sale tu kuti de jameya, teri ma de b lun gaya tai tu gandi ulad bahar aai e, or o lun kise insan da ta lagda ni tenu dekh ke, kese gande zanbar da e ho sakda e. Chutiya Jatta Jabab Milya ta deyin.. . Jay Guru Ravidas ji Maharaj , Kisi aise area me jaio jhan koi chmar hi na ho fir pta chlega, bro I am feel proud I am a chamar and I am saying chamar are honest people and powerful person In tha world I am to much proud feel I am a chamar and Pls I Read and understand I am not writing prefect english. I belong to chamar category . TELL THIS TO YOUR CHILDREN TOO. I agree as Guru Ravidass Ji himself proclaimed that to be a true follower of Guru Ravidass and Guru Nanak you should not follow caste. I have also challenged Jatts to find a Ravidassia sikh or chamar to have his genetic y chromozomes scientifically checked to prove conclusively that Jatts do not have monopoly on jatt surnames. There is no such things as caste, we are all human beings. Thus Kaul is a brahmin surname and also a chamar name. Dont try to associate yourself with us. The Jatavs are an endogamous caste of the Chamar, or leather worker, category of castes in India.Because of the polluting occupation of leather worker they rank among the Untouchable castes close to the bottom of India's caste hierarchy. Chamar, Chamari, Bairwa, Bhamhhi, Jatav, Mochi, Regar, Nona, Rohidas, Satnami, Suryavanshi, Suryaram Nami, Ahirwar, Chamar, Mangan, Raidas 36. caste is nothing but a false qualification for a weak person crying for caste like lost child crying for mom . SUND surname bhi chamar jatti mai hai.ise bhi add karo please.please, Uhm.. Sandhu bhatti virk are such common jatt last names and im pretty sure others are not chamar.. Be proud of Sikhi and Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Droch family is also belong to chamar.I also belong to ravidasia religion. Try it. They are found throughout the Indian subcontinent, mainly in the northern states of India and in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal. A woman can add Kaur Sorry to hear that you faced dsicrimination based on caste at work. . WHY? Those questions only ever really arise on visits to India. Simar/Sheemar/singhmar. You should be ashamed of your self for calling yourself a Sharma as you are not worthy of being in a human body with that evil soul of yours. chamar caste surnames list in up chamar caste surnames list in up. A caste is your social status moron and being Jatt is my ancestry. Kairay gotra ke jathere kahan hai koi bata skta hai kya plzzzz its vry urgent, Ghoter bare jankari wadia ha par tusi OK ghoter bhul gae Bhoondpal ja pal. mennu apn caste de surname bare kujj ni pta, par me eh jroor das skda ha k me ik chamar ha, yr fer ki hoya jekar appa sare castes bare galla krde aa, me te es site te chamar community te research karn lyi aya c, mennu ki pta c loki apna inna mzak udande ne, yr chamars r jst like uh guys, mere/tere ja kise hor de mathhe te koi caste nai likhi, te upper castes bare me sirf ennak pu6na chauhna ee k yr upper castes he to wht, wht the fuck does that proves??? we r on d rite track babe coz we r He is not really a sikh like you and me but but a hindu who parades himself as a charlalan sikh. Which caste comes under SC in UP? SAB KUDA DE BANDE BHAVE MANDE WA CHANGE . Ithas likhegen ham aisa fir na doraha jayega, Jo hamse aankh milayega jinda dafnaya jayega. Over the last 5000 years these 15% have had RESERVATION over all power structures and kept the shudras oppressed into servitude in perpetuity. [24] Several other Dalit castes, resenting the domination of Dalit politics by Chamars/Jatavs, came under the influence of the Sangh Parivar. They are inspired by B. R. Ambedkar to adopt the surname Rao[30] and Jatav. SO GOTRA IS IMPORTANT NOT CASTE . Please stand up so we can make changes and no discrimination based on caste system in th UK. Vijay Sharma pandit, I dont know of any chamar with a brahmin surname. These are used in Ranchi,Jharkhand, Jamshedpur and Hazaribagh area . I also very much agree with your closing remarks. Bhind and Chhatarpur districts. I can honestly say there is nothing more beautiful than Sikhi in its purest form. He has a huge family, all chumars. It has created bad feelings and destroyed good relationships. He is a typical Jatt sikh, who does not understand that being a jatt Sikh is a contradiction in terms. This is the 21st century people, learn to unite and stop discriminating. [50] Balahi have major concentration in Ujjain, Khargone and Dewas districts. Kya tandon chamar ka naam hota h i am tandon kya me chamar hu. brahmin married sudra biash born . Brahmin is not a caste but a varna. Hello, i am very glad to see this site. I agree with you that these surnames are not exclusively chamar or jatt. There are those chamars who have broken away from the above mainfold of Ravidassia Sikhs or those who were never sikhs in the first place and have formed their own religion and are followers of Dera ballan and have their own religious book called the Amrit Bani they call themselves neither sikhs nor hindus and yet call themselves as Ravidassias. Caste Population 2011 Percentage among total S.C population; Bhuiyar: 24,982: 0.07%: Chamar, Jatav, Gautam, Ahirwar, Raidas . All the answers are in their. or sochne ki baat ye hai ki jo race start hui thi na bhai chahe vo education ya employment department me higher caste wale people bhot agge nikal vhuke hai . my surname lagah..plz add this surname.jai guru ravidaas. The jatts themselves were oppressed by the Rajputs. all of u be bold yr agar self introspection karge bbat samajh mein aaayegi ki sabhi ka pita ek hi h or wo h upar wala. Rana comes from Sanskrit and means "king.". It really shouldnt matter what caste you belong too. Your Hindu masters have kept you low so they can control you, start accepting Sikhi and you will get all your answers. Sikhi has made everyone equal. : This is the major reason of some gotras found in different castes . Yes there is also nothing to be proud of caste. I hope that answers your question Ajay. Account No. Chamar is the 20,158 th most numerous last name on a global scale, held by approximately 1 in 268,655 people. I ll be really thankful if u ll answer my query..plz make it fast its really urgent ..please, yes,NAR is a sub caste of chamars. The god then revealed his true self, and cursed his lineage to become Chamars, who would be lower in status than the Shudras. You will one day wake up and realise that Jattism and Brahminism are the same. Scheduled Castes at the Cross Roads. 4, 3rd Floor, Dr. Jivraj Mehta Bhavan, Gandhinagar, Gujarat (India). But please conduct research thoroughly before making such claims. u wash ur chitter in the fields with ur bare hands, without washing them, then eat ur roti! according to past and present time we can see warrior skills and bravery in jatt race . Thank god we have no relation to these F##ked up Brahmins. Pathetic people have made this system ages ago, when hardly any one was educated then, Im a Sharma (Brahmin) .. And I hate this bs, we should we proud that we are Indians ! former DIG haryana police, STUPIDS As SHRI GURUGRANTH SAHIB JIsay tha there is no caste in sikhism. are all Brahmin last names. People need to use their brains and come together as a human race and fight off evil in the world whatever race, religion, creed or ethnicity you are!!! may god bless to all .thanks. y sambuk sudra rishi was killed by cruel rama . Chohan 99. is not indicating false pride of jat race that their bahu of kunbi caste claiming rajput while jodha married to mugal akbar happily accepted n kept raja mansing in his service. Virtually all the fighters remaining and their families were taken into the middle east so that they can never rise again in India. We r one chamar all over INDIA. . yes you are right, Chamar community people changing their surname, hiding their caste, so please dont change surname. I assume by you saying trebled as a lot you mean as a result. I will not judge you on your poor use of English language, that is an indication of your level of education. The Chamars are divided into more than 150 subcastes, all of which are characterized by well-organized panchayats (governing councils). Only jatts think like that which is why are despised by virtually all other sikhs from other castes. Im research student from Japan. Historically subject to untouchability, they were traditionally outside the traditional society ritual ranking system of caste known as Varna. but then comes conversion and beliefs . ha ha ha hahahaha. Over 75% of bereaucracy, ie the civil service, is in the hands on the Brahmins, who are only 4% of the population. singh is used by hindus also . There is legally nothing to stop you using it as an adopted surname by choice. human beings have no caste while animals have-donkey ,horse , sheep , goat etc like brahman protected by kshtriya financed by vaishya n served by sudra agaist which system all khatri gurus have spoken as they were from the same system where from saints, bhagats, gurus, mahatmas arise . In the scheme of the caste system the shudras were the servants or slaves of the system.. All the leading great countries of the world that have progressed have had revolutions in their country by the the lower masses, eg Great Britain, France, Russia, China, America etc. all this surname shit is bolloks, caste is bolloks all of u need 2 get over your selves and understand we are all human beings u bunch of egotistical nothings. () [21] In the second half of the 20th century, the Ambedkarite Republican Party of India (RPI) in Uttar Pradesh remained dominated by Chamars/Jatavs, despite attempts by leaders such as B.P. Use your head stupid.Do your research check out that sahota is a surname that falls in chamar, valmik and jatt castes. Sikhism has equality as its basic principle and strongly opposes discrimination based on caste , race , color of skin , gender , etc. Sorry Mr singh ji Jai Guru Dev. Ravidassia should be working to promote the misssion of the Guru not actively engaged in doing the work of brahminism by encouraging the caste surnames. If he see himself as a jatt then he is endorsing the caste system; yet if he is Sikh he must reject the caste. Therefore, it is a humble request to give maximum donation and cooperate in this social pious work by giving your contribution. my chamar caste and beliefs doesnot allow me to harass other innocent . hi to everyone, it very good that we should disclose our surname (ghotra), because surname is our identity, so please add your surname to your First name and help other people of our caste to add surname as well. Please siprea gotr sati where place ad address pls kisi ko is ke vare me kush pta chle tu plz snd me . other than marrige clan , caste , creed is irrevalant . Well said mate! chamar caste surnames list in up The term chamar is derived from Chanwar/Chawar which is used as a pejorative word for dalits in general. And there is some more chamar surname :- Bhatti, Dahiya, Mehra, Chahal, Sohal, Rathi, Ranga, Dhania, Singhania, Bhoriwal. Your pride and arrogance is based on pure ignorance or a lie. And yes if you are so concern about birth control, go join a fucking NGO, why are you wasting your time here! Instead of working for abolition of castes you people are continuing to firming up caste system. ko neecha kyun samajh raha hai.kyun ki wo imandari se kam karte the aur tum chooron ki tarah bewkuf banakar maje leelete the.tum jaise logoon me dum nahi hai sacchai pata karne ka.tujhe pata nahi hai aaj logoon ko reservation leena padh raha hai tumhare hi nich karmo sesaloon tumeh to narak me bhi kute ki moot nahi milegi.dekhna haramkhoronhistory pata nahi haiaaya bada caste ka chhacha .ajj ke wad aahu jehi galan na kari.kamala na hove tankhote da putt saala bawla brahim. JAI BHIM JAI JATAV JAI CHAMARPROUD TO BE AN CHAMAR. Bhardwaj , Uppal , Virk , Sandhu and Gill are not Chamar gotras.. Bhradwaj are Brahmins and rest all are Jaat (Shudra) .. Dalits or Chamars are not Shudra or Brahmins so these Gotra as Misused by Chamars. My whole family is like this but will not marry out of caste or anyother race or group that includes whites and blacks. So all workmen like zimidars, carpenters , blacksmiths , goldsmiths , weavers , artisans leather workers , shoe makers all were clubbed as sudras since they worked for other three Varnas to provide them with services. STOP blaming each other. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Running a website can be expensive and time-consuming. If anybody knows plz whats app 1 powerful caste of world. Im proud beeing Chammar, but I also think that we have to live and love to all, cast Its a name that represents us, the most important thing is be human, a good human. Why the scheduled caste officers are being blamed for threefold increased corruption is completely unjustifiable. When I tell them I am not a hindu or Sikh , they say , you must be low caste. I appreciate your reply to me at mksharma55@gmail.com, Hates of you man who proudly say they are chamar because they know caste dont matter only your achievements matter I am from a high caste Srivastav I never make fun of any lower caste for me everyone is at same level . othe v mil hi jana .. think first then share your views .. 22g . Im proud of being Sikh, our gurus fought for equality and eradicating caste system. There is something known as History(the kind of english you have written I can very well relate how much you would have known your own history, forget ours), read it first before commenting such things. Unless of course she is lying and her jatt family did give her hard time which would make them the people that are letting the flame burn and the ones that need to get a fucking life .To answer your question, yes of course i would marry off my daughters/ sisters into other castes/ faiths. Desiangel do not talk like unclutured and uneducated person. Vinod Kumar Your comments are based not on any empirical facts or evidence but on ignorance and and prejudice and resentment towards our people and you know it too.Then you go on to say being a chumar or choora now means it is a licence to print money from corruption and thus has increased corruption. Moghia If our people ever spoke of the injustice they suffered, they faced starvation for them and their whole families. Prove your contribution as a good citizen. PDF POpufo No. 63 ~:~~sula:l - Tribal Same way Chamar also fought with Aurangzeb under Satnami revolution . You need to examine the views you hold based on ignorance and heat. Mentally you are not a free man because you carry so much caste baggage and can only see things through the caste prism. I like reading through a post that can make men and women think. If he can understand what I am saying maybe he see some light of truth. People need to open their eyes and grow up. Please contribute to this website to improve the quality and allow for it to expand and grow. No one will spit on you if you were on fire should you carry on having so much hatred towards fellow human beings. They fought well but they lost.
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